Re: Attentat auf Manipur
Geschrieben von Parivadi das am 27. August 2006 13:24:27:
Als Antwort auf: Re: Attentat auf Manipur geschrieben von Bhaktin Geli am 26. August 2006 21:40:
Danke Bhaktin Geli für diese Zitate!
DD
Parivadi das
>Haribol, lieber Brownsugar,
>ich denke, der Zwischenfall hat niemanden unberührt gelassen. Doch auch wenn wir mehr darüber sprechen würden, könnten wir ihn nicht ungeschehen machen. Wir alle haben dabei ein Wunder erlebt, denn die Handgranate, die den Altar treffen sollte, hat nicht gezündet und alle Menschen in diesem Bereich sind unversehrt geblieben.
>Vielleicht hilft es dir ein wenig weiter, folgende Texte von fortgeschrittenen Devotees auf die Frage, warum Krishna so etwas geschehen lässt, zu lesen.
>Answer by Badrinarayan dasa:
>It all ultimately comes down to the question of why there is evil in
>this world? Why do small babies die horrible deaths? Why do devotees
>get cancer? What about the holocaust and Nazi concentration camps?
>This world is not a nice comfortable place. Krishna has not promised
>us heaven on earth. He has promised us Vaikuntha/ Goloka but we have
>to give up all attachments to these bodies and this world. Thus the
>dicotomy, tension, struggle, and breaking of attachments.
>Also, on a positive note, sometimes devotees suffer and are put in
>difficulty for their greater glory and success. The attack on the
>Bombay temple in the 1970s rallied local support, turned the tide, and
>ultimately resulted in the big and beautiful Juhu temple. We cannot
>see the future and Krishna's plan. Also, when the devotees are put in
>distress and Krishna ultimately saves them, their love for Him and
>their surrender and faith are increased. The Pandavas were hunted in
>the forest by their enemies but the results of their constant moving
>was that they gained the weapons and allies to ultimately be prepared
>for success on the battlefield of Kuruksetra. We don't know how and
>why Krishna is moving us but we know that it is ultimately for our
>good and the good of the world.
>Your servant, Badrinarayan dasa
>Answer by Virabahu das:
>From Srimad-Bhagavatam [3.16.37]:
>When something is arranged by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one
>should not be disturbed by it, even if it appears to be a reverse
>according to one's calculations. For example, sometimes we see that a
>powerful preacher is killed, or sometimes he is put into difficulty,
>just as Haridasa Thakura was. He was a great devotee who came into
>this material world to execute the will of the Lord by preaching the
>Lord's glories. But Haridasa was punished at the hands of the Kazi by
>being beaten in twenty-two marketplaces. Similarly, Lord Jesus Christ
>was crucified, and Prahlada Maharaja was put through so many
>tribulations. The Pandavas, who were direct friends of Krsna, lost
>their kingdom, their wife was insulted, and they had to undergo many
>severe tribulations. Seeing all these reverses affect devotees, one
>should not be disturbed; one should simply understand that in these
>matters there must be some plan of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
>The Bhagavatam's conclusion is that a devotee is never disturbed by
>such reverses. He accepts even reverse conditions as the grace of the
>Lord. One who continues to serve the Lord even in reverse conditions
>is assured that he will go back to Godhead, back to the Vaikuntha
>planets. Lord Brahma assured the demigods that there was no use in
>talking about how the disturbing situation of darkness was taking
>place, since the actual fact was that it was ordered by the Supreme
>Lord. Brahma knew this because he was a great devotee; it was possible
>for him to understand the plan of the Lord.
>Answer by Aniruddha das:
>Krsna protects the devotion of His devotees. What ever service is
>rendered on His behalf never goes in vain. However, our karmas run
>deep. Even when we are engaged in devotional activities still we
>suffer reactions to past deeds, albeit reduced by His mercy.
>We can not know exactly why devotees are attacked in such fashion but
>we can know it is a reaction to past misdeeds. For exalted devotees
>such as Prahlada Maharaja and the residents of Vrndavana Krsna
>personally appears to protect them; their devotion is so great. In
>other circumstances the Lord doesn't appear.
>We can then understand those devotees are either not as elevated as
>the residents of Vrndavana or that the Lord has another plan for them.
>He has relieved them of this body and will give them another suitable
>to take up His service again, elsewhere.
>We must always remember we are not this body and that an attack on
>this body never reduces the service offered to Him. In fact, service
>rendered to the Lord ensures we will take up devotional service again
>even in our next body. There is never any spiritual loss for a devotee.
>Answer by Praghosa das:
>In the 9th Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam we learn the following.
>Bhismadeva impresses upon Maharaja Yudhisthira that there is no need
>to be despondent about the massacre that was the battle of Kuruksetra
>as it was the will of the Lord. All the suffering and injustices that
>the Pandavas endured were due to them being the the sons of religion
>personified. Queen Kunti also suffered greatly due to the actions of
>the Pandavas. Prabhupada says that she had to suffer due to providence
>and that this has to be tolerated without one being disturbed. Queen
>Kunti was of course the personification of not being disturbed by
>calamities, indeed she prayed for more.
>It is explained that suffering is due to inevitable time, under whose
>control everyone in every planet is being carried. Everyone has to
>bear the action and reaction of time as long as they are within the
>conditions of the material world and even the most pious sinless man
>has to suffer this condition of material nature. Materially the
>Pandavas were well equipped with great warriors such as Bhima and
>Arjuna and spiritually Yudhisthira was the king of religion and Lord
>Krsna was also on their side. Still due to influence of kala so many
>reverses were experienced. Kala of course is no different than the
>Lord Himself, therefore all this was the will of the Lord and
>consequently there was no reason to lament.
>It is further explained that no one can understand the will of the
>Lord. Even though great philosophers enquire exhaustively they remain
>bewildered.
>Krsna temporarily put his devotees in a suffering condition to
>establish the kingdom of virtue over vice and establish Yudhisthira on
>the throne. Bhismadeva was of course most pleased by this even though
>he fought on the other side. This was also the plan of the Lord to
>show that even a great personality and fighter like Bhisma cannot be
>victorious when fighting for the wrong cause.
>Prabhupada uses the example of the the housewife teaching the
>daughter-in-law by teaching the daughter. So in the same way the Lord
>teaches the world by teaching the devotee, just as the Lord taught the
>less intelligent by teaching Arjuna in the Bhagavad-gita. So a
>devotee's duty is to happily accept such tribulations as a benediction
>from the Lord.
>So while it may appear unusual for devotees to suffer in the way that
>they recently did in Manipur, in reality it is a special mercy of the
>Lord as explained in this part of the Srimad Bhagavatam.